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May 21, 2008

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Kiko Jones

"Perhaps the marriage of likeable (and "safe-seeming to the average American") George Takei and his parnter of 21 years (longer term than the vast majority of "traditional" marriages) can break down barriers better than the marriage of someone like Ellen DeGeneres could."

Aside from her well-known sexual orientation, you don't get any more white bread-mainstream-unthreatening-lowest common denominator than DeGeneres. Which begs the question, how exactly is she more controversial than George Takei? Or is the average American more threatened/disgusted/repulsed/less sympathetic (take your pick) to lesbians than gay men? Bad example...

Caro

Not quite sure what your point is, Kiko. Yeah, Ellen is extremely non-threatening. And she's marrying a hottie! It's not a contest of who's less threatening and more likely to "normalize" gay marriage. Just that Sulu is a pretty good'un to do that. And yes, there are differences between men and women. Most of the more virulent opposition to gay marriage has been around images of two men together.

Kiko Jones

Well, just off the top of my head, if non-celebrity gay couples that people in every day life could relate to, that weren't from cities where gays are routinely accepted were to tie that knot, then that could demonstrate and provoke a new attitude. But celebrity couples from LA, SF, NY etc? That's expected.

As for "the more virulent opposition to gay marriage has been around images of two men together", that may be the case. But I'd bet very good money those people are really not cool about lesbians getting married, either.

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